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Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 8:09 am
by sophie
Before I say anything, because the food is as good as its always been, so are the staff, I'm not going to N and S. My comments are based on the new pricing. On Sunday we turned up without booking. In the past in the summer, we've always booked in advance, as its been pretty full of locals, Expats and holiday makers plus on Sunday what we thought would be locals celebrating Kurban Bayram. From 12.45 to 3pm there was 1 x 4 table, 1 x 2 table and two lots of people collecting Take a Way. The menu was much smaller, redesigned and attractive, but the first thing I noticed was some of the starters had increased by 10tl + (there was no longer a Sunday special but that didn't bother us). One of us only had water to drink and there was no coffee on the house (not really bothered but at least we'd always been asked in the past).

In other words a once popular restaurant appeared to us to be pricing itself off the market if the number of diners on Sunday lunch is anything to go by. Maybe the owner has sufficient capital to ride what they all consider to be their financial storm but at those prices we won't be going too often. I know the whole bill was probably smaller than eating out for 4 in UK but that isn't the point.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:26 am
by frontalman
Never heard of this place, such a strange name, would you mind sharing where it is, please.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:48 am
by gates
were what god knows the place you are talking about were who ?

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 12:07 pm
by sophie
I deliberately haven't mentioned a name (so how Frontalman can say what he did) My point is, but obviously neither of you have picked this up. Do you think that to make ends meet, some of them are starting to up their prices to such an extent that people stop going. I think its becoming obvious that they seem to think "I'll up the prices by as much as 50% and make more money" Whereas it's my belief that it's beginning to have the opposite effect. At last where my wallet is concerned it is.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 12:55 pm
by IPA
Can you give us another clue? In Kyrenia? West or East side

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 1:32 pm
by snd1966
N&S = Name and Shame!!!

We have noticed if I do not drink local drinks or bottles of wine our bar bill has risen quite drastically, lots of places have happy hours on draft beer but its too early for me and admittedly I am not a beer drinker.

local spirit comes with mixer and a real case the next day of feeling like Ooops and acid reflux but imported can be as much as 30tl plus the mixer on top.

I find when there are not enough customers the price has to go up to pay for the rent which is generally in sterling

a vicious vicious circle

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 3:07 pm
by Heaven
I agree with Sophie. We have lived here 12 years, but just lately, the prices along the Lapta Strip have really rocketed. A week last Sunday, we went to Sea point with a friend. Last Sunday our friend went again and she tells me that there was a new menu printed but all the prices have gone up but the lira has strengthened against the pound! The problem is that holiday makers will not be here after the summer and so it falls to the locals . We do not tend to go out so much now because most of the meals are with chips and we need to have better food and after all the expats money will not last forever! My husband took me to Lords palace yesterday just to look at the Sky Bar many people rave about. The menu was good and very reasonable, then we looked at the prices for a bottle of wine. We do like to share a bottle in the evening and our favourite is Lal Rose. It was 200 TL a bottle and all the bottles were 2 or 300 Tl a bottle. Hence we will not be going there! Thankfully, we do not need to party so much anymore and we tend to go out for a snack at lunchtime and the as old foggies enjoy a meal at home and share a cheaper bottle!

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 8:52 pm
by sophie
To be honest Heaven, we have virtually stopped going to any of the Restaurants which are in 5 Star Hotels, attached to Casinos. I sadly have to admit it but our wallets just don't stretch that far any longer. We have just come back from one of the venues on the Lapta Strip i.e. Blue Song. They were packed to capacity. However we visit them during the winter when all the surrounding hotels are virtually empty and villa rentals have come to a dead stop. Despite not having booked a table, we were seated at a lovely table and treated very well as they acknowledge we go throughout the year. The place on the Lapta strip that appears to have increased their prices the most is Kalamares. Yee Gods and the portions are much smaller (I'm not a big eater by any stretch of the imagine). Last time we went on a Sunday, there were loads of Greek registered cars there so against the Euro it must still be reasonable.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 9:19 pm
by wanderer
so against the Euro it must still be reasonable.
sophie
True Kibkomer
True Kibkomer

So against the euro its happy days for the Hypocrites
Drove back from green river Yerismak 8:2 GC registered cars it was 1.14 to th £ then not euro1.07

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:31 pm
by alphamike
wanderer wrote:so against the Euro it must still be reasonable.
sophie
True Kibkomer
True Kibkomer

So against the euro its happy days for the Hypocrites
Drove back from green river Yerismak 8:2 GC registered cars it was 1.14 to th £ then not euro1.07
Can you please explain your post? It doesn't make sense to me.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 6:21 am
by Keithcaley
alphamike wrote:...t doesn't make sense to me.
Not me!

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 6:51 am
by sophie
I can't understand it either, unless it means that GC's are coming up here to eat and shop because its cheaper. If not, then I haven't a clue.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 10:22 am
by frontalman
Sorry I had a thicko (not to say that I'm prejudiced toward non-thinnos) moment - that's for Erol........... I thought N & S was short for Narks and Spencers or something, and you weren't going to return there. Silly me, must be the car accident.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 11:05 am
by Keithcaley
Nah, you wos allus like dat!

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 1:16 pm
by wanderer
sophie wrote:I can't understand it either, unless it means that GC's are coming up here to eat and shop because its cheaper. If not, then I haven't a clue.
Its precely that spend all their time moaning illegal state terrible place then come and fill their boots with fags booze fuel and food

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 1:33 pm
by sophie
Aha, then I was correct, well mostly and of course you're right. Similiar to being in the UK forces in Germany and no border control (a few years back of course) Germany for petrol and nip 5 miles up the road to Holland for food. We still do it here. I know masses of people who haven't a good thing to say about people down south, but go 4 times a month to shop in the Malls and the cut price food stores.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 14 Aug 2019 3:04 pm
by Keithcaley
sophie wrote:Aha, then I was correct, well mostly and of course you're right. Similiar to being in the UK forces in Germany and no border control (a few years back of course) Germany for petrol and nip 5 miles up the road to Holland for food. We still do it here. I know masses of people who haven't a good thing to say about people down south, but go 4 times a month to shop in the Malls and the cut price food stores.
Precely!

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Thu 15 Aug 2019 7:32 pm
by frontalman
I spoke to a restaurant owner last evening who has just put his prices up. He said that everything is going up for them so they are forced to pass on the costs. We are having to break into the savings we made from not renewing residency over the last few years to fund our face feeding. Others not so economically astute are feeling the pinch it seems.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Fri 16 Aug 2019 4:25 am
by snd1966
frontalman wrote:I spoke to a restaurant owner last evening who has just put his prices up. He said that everything is going up for them so they are forced to pass on the costs. .
But by putting up their costs less people go, like you said you will have to cut back on something when you resume residency, it maybe that weekly meal or going to an owner run one, or worse going on their special night 2 curries for 70tl!. too many of the same restaurants, too few people, it will be a case of survivor of the fittest!

Last night a customer asked me to drop off a crate of efes, 112tl in hur deniz 4.66 a bottle therefore a very good mark up when charged 12tl in the bar. No wonder people do happy hour to get the people in.

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 20 Aug 2019 1:40 pm
by Groucho
Heaven wrote: We do like to share a bottle in the evening and our favourite is Lal Rose. It was 200 TL a bottle and all the bottles were 2 or 300 Tl a bottle. Hence we will not be going there! Thankfully, we do not need to party so much anymore and we tend to go out for a snack at lunchtime and the as old foggies enjoy a meal at home and share a cheaper bottle!
Lal is only 80tl a bottle in Ezic Peanuts

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 03 Sep 2019 2:05 pm
by CiNF
Sorry but have any of you any idea of what it costs to run a business here, rent in sterling, electric more than doubled, staff wages gone up, tax, insurance, drinks licences other licenses, permits I could go on and on. Yes some places are charging high prices but any 5* star hotel anywhere in the world will be heavy bread. 12tl for an efes is the norm, that's £1.70 less than in 2008 when it was 5tl at 2.5 to the £. You must have seen the huge hikes in prices at supermarkets in food and wine, and this is where businesses are having to buy from. You can't compare you drinking a beer at home to going out to an establishments with air con or heating, service etc. I just don't understand this constant moaning but I suppose you can always go and drink local spirits yuk!! (poisen) why do you think locals don't drink it! and make a curry at home.!

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 03 Sep 2019 5:35 pm
by tomsteel
CiNF wrote:Sorry but have any of you any idea of what it costs to run a business here, rent in sterling, electric more than doubled, staff wages gone up, tax, insurance, drinks licences other licenses, permits I could go on and on. Yes some places are charging high prices but any 5* star hotel anywhere in the world will be heavy bread. 12tl for an efes is the norm, that's £1.70 less than in 2008 when it was 5tl at 2.5 to the £. You must have seen the huge hikes in prices at supermarkets in food and wine, and this is where businesses are having to buy from. You can't compare you drinking a beer at home to going out to an establishments with air con or heating, service etc. I just don't understand this constant moaning but I suppose you can always go and drink local spirits yuk!! (poisen) why do you think locals don't drink it! and make a curry at home.!
Surely, the locals being Muslims do not drink alcohol - hence, "--- why do you think locals don't drink it ----?"

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 03 Sep 2019 5:48 pm
by jofra
...And Commandment no.6 - Surely, Judeo/Christians abide by this and do not transgress.....

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 03 Sep 2019 6:17 pm
by CiNF
Cypriots don't drink local spirits only import didn't mean don't drink alcohol lol..

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Wed 04 Sep 2019 11:14 am
by Holly
Also

Apart from the increases in prices the food in general ~ mainly there is less and not to the same standard as previously

We normally eat out twice a week for lunch and pretty much go to the same restaurants and all are the same

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 09 Jun 2020 3:49 pm
by Wines Of The World
So the last post in this thread was Sep 04, 2019 12:14 pm and many are of the opinion prices are rising very quickly and very high.

9/06/2020

Hows the prices this year then out and about ?

Re: Pricing themselves out of business?

Posted: Tue 09 Jun 2020 7:17 pm
by RedLionPubAlsancak
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