Donald Trump

[wanderer]

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Donald Trump 'secretly recruited as KGB agent' on trip to build Moscow hotel in 1987
It has been claimed that when Donald Trump travelled to Moscow for the first time back in 1987, as a 40-year-old real estate developer, he was recruited as a KGB agent
Donald Trump
A former Soviet intelligence officer has claimed that Donald Trump was recruited by the KGB (Image: AFP via Getty Images)

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Donald Trump was allegedly recruited as a KGB agent during a trip to Moscow in 1987, a former Soviet intelligence officer has claimed.

Alnur Mussayev, who previously headed Kazakhstan's National Security Committee, said one of his job "recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries" - and claimed that one of those recruits was Trump. At the time, the now-US president was a 40-year-old New York real estate developer.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Donald Trump was allegedly recruited as a KGB agent during a trip to Moscow in 1987, a former Soviet intelligence officer has claimed.

Think I’ll file that with the hologram jets from 9/11.
Can there be anyone who still believes the Democratic Party sponsored Steele dossier anymore?
A more worthwhile investigation I would be the Biden family’s involvement with foreign powers. There’s actual receipts for that.

[waz-24-7]

Precisely my point.
Its not just the UK that is lurching to the right.
It is my opinion ,however, that in 2016 the UK public did just that rather unwittingly. Many middle and left of centre followed the pied piper.

Not really your point but still.
Leaving the EU was not particularly a right wing thing. Corbyn has been anti EU all his political career. During Brexit he was stuck between a rock and a hard place so pretty much just ignored and fudged the question. Tony Benn was against the EU as he wanted our Parliament to have sovereignty. He was hardly right wing was he? Benn was too far to the left for my taste but he was a politician of principle & pro democracy and a patriot. Being a patriot doesn’t mean you are a nationalist.

Jean-Marie Le Pen the first politician to go far right in the modern era was a pretty big figure in French politics from the early 80s, he won a seat in the European Parliament in 1984. Back then 20 year old Farage was a trainee in the London Metal Exchange having only left school 2 years before and 13 year old Musk was still at school in South Africa.
So to say Brexit had anything to do with the lurch to the right in European politics is nonsense

ETS
as you seem to persist.

It is without doubt that many , even a majority , voted to leave the EU because they wanted to halt free movement and felt that the EU was the culprit for immigration . The RED bus of Farage showed thousand of Turkish lining up to enter the UK.. what a lie!! The unwitting followed the propaganda and Farage the lead piper loved it. Many socialists unwittingly became rather more right wing than they could possibly comprehend.

Yes the whole thing was led by a right wing fascist who now aligns himself with Mr Trump. The Right wing Reform party is the post Brexit ideology that many clearly think is the answer to the Brexit failure.

ETS
your comments may have credence but its all history and somewhat irrelevant to the current situation.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

It is without doubt that many , even a majority , voted to leave the EU because they wanted to halt free movement and felt that the EU was the culprit for immigration .

It was a factor not THE factor. Control of your borders is a big part of retaining your sovereignty which many felt we were giving away to the EU.
I know you’d like it for you and the EU to be a bulwark against fascism but it’s nonsense.

The EU was obviously very good to you and your business hence your slavish devotion to it.
For the vast majority it made no difference at all so why not cut a bill.
I think of it as cancelling your expensive gym membership to that gym you only go to twice a year.

[waz-24-7]

It is without doubt that many , even a majority , voted to leave the EU because they wanted to halt free movement and felt that the EU was the culprit for immigration .

It was a factor not THE factor. Control of your borders is a big part of retaining your sovereignty which many felt we were giving away to the EU.
I know you’d like it for you and the EU to be a bulwark against fascism but it’s nonsense.

The EU was obviously very good to you and your business hence your slavish devotion to it.
For the vast majority it made no difference at all so why not cut a bill.
I think of it as cancelling your expensive gym membership to that gym you only go to twice a year.

The EU , the UK's largest customer , has been good for UK business and presented on going opportunities.
It is abundantly clear that many businesses have suffered immensely by the departure from the single market economy.
I shan't list the sectors as most will now be enlightened.

Many forecast the break up of the EU. Thank goodness the Union stands solid. How Mr Putin would rejoice if Europe was returned to the Nationalistic status of the 1930's. Goodbye Ukraine, then Lithuania, then Poland and so on.

Once again Mr ETS your failure to identify and comprehend the modern world order, its political narrative and a necessity to be globally wide awake.
Sovereignty is of course very important to all countries. The UK has never lost that position. Unfortunately, you and many were hoodwinked that leaving the EU would be a magic wand to halt immigration either legal or illegal and that the UK would secure trade deals that would lead to prosperity. Oh dear ...no explanation needed upon that disaster.

Instead , we now have a socialist government that are borrowing like never before. Taxing our already struggling private sector whilst handing out copies monies in support of widespread inefficiency and failure within so many broken and unfit bodies.

[waz-24-7]

Well todays cringe worthy meeting today in the USA Oval Office!!

Vance and Trump acting like school bullies.
Is the USA an ally of Ukraine and Europe OR is Putin the new ally that Trump is tapping up to.

If The USA removes support from Ukraine. Will Europe and the UK take up the fight against Putin.
If the EU reduces support; what will the cash strapped UK do?

Interesting times indeed.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Sovereignty is of course very important to all countries. The UK has never lost that position. Unfortunately, you and many were hoodwinked that leaving the EU would be a magic wand to halt immigration either legal or illegal

Again you move onto immigration as it was the only reason people voted for Brexit & ignore sovereignty.
Simple question, does EU law have supremacy over an individual member country's own law?

[waz-24-7]

Sovereignty is of course very important to all countries. The UK has never lost that position. Unfortunately, you and many were hoodwinked that leaving the EU would be a magic wand to halt immigration either legal or illegal

Again you move onto immigration as it was the only reason people voted for Brexit & ignore sovereignty.
Simple question, does EU law have supremacy over an individual member country's own law?

UK law is not supreme over many EU laws and regulations. The UK must be in the room and not stand outside with an ear to the door.
For example. Food labelling legislation. Food trade is extremely important to both the EU and the UK.
In order for the UK to trade food products into the EU. It must adhere to EU standards and labelling protocols.

The UK would be rather silly to finance, administer and create a regime that is likely to be rejected . Its a global economy now.

The fishing industry...promised so much if they voted out. Has been left isolated and struggling to send product into the EU.

Of course, your fear is that the EU will, by virtue of European Court directives. Take over some of your rights.
Of course the UK has already lost so much so compromise has to be the order of the day.
The UK simply cannot be isolated from Europe.

The strength of Europe together is right now being tested as the Ukraine issue persists to demand a united European front.

I fear the possible outcome if , as many predicted post brexit. The Union would disintegrate. Luckily , the Union stands strong against the threats that are clear and concerning.

[waz-24-7]

So Mr Trump is quite decidedly deserting Ukraine as well as Europe in general until ,possibly, defence spending is reformed and the USA can reduce its military commitment and spend within NATO. Word is his view upon Europe is far different to what America was in the 1940's.

Did Mr Putin capitalise upon a weaker EU after the departure of the UK. Did he hope, and many also predicted , the EU would disintegrate after the UK exit.

Mr Starmer has clearly taken a position upon the threat from the East and support for Ukraine. I admire that move. Very concerning is that the UK is not even at tomorrows EU summit in which one topic is to share nuclear deterrents and to strategize a defence. This is exactly the disastrous outcome of being OUTSIDE the room.

Will Mr Starmer now turn to Mr Trump in the hope that the USA allegiance may be safeguarded to protect our shores if needed. OR will he work to enter new talks to at least join a united European defence strategy given the risk from the East and that the USA will be a much lesser NATO contributor.

Mr Putin is now in a strong position. Has he eyes upon the European prize? Thank goodness the EU did not crumble and the Union is steadfast upon its task to defend and stand strong.

Certainly sovereignty is not the savoir in such uncertain times. Strength, co operation and Union will save the day.