Do Black Lives Matter to the BLM??
Posted: Wed 10 Nov 2021 12:17 pm
With the BLM and the Maxists hijacking this cause we are on ground I have some experience about.
I was involved in the Rock against Racism and Anti National Front movements back in the mid to late 70s.
Racism back then was a problem and looked as if it was becoming almost respectable.
What I did find with both movements is they were both riddled with the Socialist Workers Party.
I wouldn’t have a problem with that if our sole focus was to park our political differences and protest against the fascists but the SWP doesn’t get many to their meetings when it’s purely SWP so they couldn’t resist pushing their crap so I questioned whether they were interested in just fighting fascism or just gathering a crowd to push their own extremism.
Fast forward 40 years and we have a BLM movement in the U.K.
Someone has been murdered thousands of miles away and we have a group organising marches in the UK.
Both the US & U.K. BLM movements are riddled with Marxists at the top.
Is there a major problem with racism in the UK?
There are still too many racists & black people are still behind where they should be but I think we are moving in the right direction and to say it is as bad as it was 50 years ago is ludicrous.
Are our police racist? A few are for sure but the police force have made strides on this.
Like the country as a whole, a racist who is openly racist would not be made to feel welcome in my opinion. times have changed.
The key narrative of the BLM movement are black people being killed in disproportionate numbers by the police.
I looked up the cases and certainly not in the U.K. There are a handful of cases that bear more scrutiny but there are with white deaths by the police and no data has ever shown that they are in the US.
Some statistics have been spun to try and show this but they don’t stand up to any scrutiny.
What is a pandemic in the black community is murders through gang and knife crime but the BLM movement in both countries is silent on this. Deafeningly silent.
So to me it looks as if the BLM’s aim to simply undermine confidence in the police force and black lives are irrelevant.
Marxists need to undermine our institutions to eventually take control of them so it isn’t that Black Lives Matter in the slightest it’s here’s an opportunity to get a large crowd which we needn’t usually get, to push our narrative and undermine the police.
We only have to see the protests and the hijacked vigil for poor Sarah Everard.
She was murdered by a policeman and horrendous mistakes were made by the police, Like Derek Chauvin you have to question the police monitoring and recruitment and heads need to roll. On the positive the owlife was bought to justice within hours.
Now it is a sad fact that young girls are murdered by predatory sick men.
By and large the left appear to have zero interest in women’s safety. When other poor women are murdered their silence is deafening unless they feel there is a race angle to exploit. A black women killed by a white man will pique their interest but a BAME man on a white woman, a BAME man on a BAME woman or a white man on a white woman all of those scenarios will meet with deafening silence.
In this case the left leapt at like a dog with a bone. Why? Because it gave them a chance to attack the police as a whole.
As for the vigil, who turns up to a vigil for a murdered girl with a Palestininian flag? It is like Del Boy turning up with a suitcase of moody Rolexes to sell because a crowd is there.
So back to taking the knee.
I have no problem with there being a gesture to condemn racism. I don’t think there is a problem in the game of football now our game is over represented by black players and when there was a problem the FA and all the other authorities shamefully turned a blind eye to it.
My problem is that gesture. Because that gesture supports an organisation that’s main purpose is to push Marxism.
So my take is I don’t think there is much problem with racism within English football although evidence shows football is still behind the curve on integrating Asian or gay people into football but no-one seems to care about that.
That said any gesture against racism is never a bad thing but to get full support come up with a gesture that isn’t so heavily linked with an organisation that is viewed as Marxist.
Your and others take seems to be that partucular gesture is the most important thing so you’d be willing to lose a lot of potential support to keep that gesture so I question why?
Tommy Robinson is without doubt a fascist but has limited his rhetoric to the child grooming gangs and extremist Islam.
He even has BAME supporters.
Now I am not naïve and have no doubts that Robinson is a dyed in the wool fascist and the child grooming and extremist Islam is his Trojan Horse and gateway to spout his poison and any black people or Sikhs that support him and don’t think they will be the next raget must be moronic.
So Erol you aren’t a stupid man.
I think you are very naive but you insist your eyes are open on this so to me that only seems to leave one option?
I was involved in the Rock against Racism and Anti National Front movements back in the mid to late 70s.
Racism back then was a problem and looked as if it was becoming almost respectable.
What I did find with both movements is they were both riddled with the Socialist Workers Party.
I wouldn’t have a problem with that if our sole focus was to park our political differences and protest against the fascists but the SWP doesn’t get many to their meetings when it’s purely SWP so they couldn’t resist pushing their crap so I questioned whether they were interested in just fighting fascism or just gathering a crowd to push their own extremism.
Fast forward 40 years and we have a BLM movement in the U.K.
Someone has been murdered thousands of miles away and we have a group organising marches in the UK.
Both the US & U.K. BLM movements are riddled with Marxists at the top.
Is there a major problem with racism in the UK?
There are still too many racists & black people are still behind where they should be but I think we are moving in the right direction and to say it is as bad as it was 50 years ago is ludicrous.
Are our police racist? A few are for sure but the police force have made strides on this.
Like the country as a whole, a racist who is openly racist would not be made to feel welcome in my opinion. times have changed.
The key narrative of the BLM movement are black people being killed in disproportionate numbers by the police.
I looked up the cases and certainly not in the U.K. There are a handful of cases that bear more scrutiny but there are with white deaths by the police and no data has ever shown that they are in the US.
Some statistics have been spun to try and show this but they don’t stand up to any scrutiny.
What is a pandemic in the black community is murders through gang and knife crime but the BLM movement in both countries is silent on this. Deafeningly silent.
So to me it looks as if the BLM’s aim to simply undermine confidence in the police force and black lives are irrelevant.
Marxists need to undermine our institutions to eventually take control of them so it isn’t that Black Lives Matter in the slightest it’s here’s an opportunity to get a large crowd which we needn’t usually get, to push our narrative and undermine the police.
We only have to see the protests and the hijacked vigil for poor Sarah Everard.
She was murdered by a policeman and horrendous mistakes were made by the police, Like Derek Chauvin you have to question the police monitoring and recruitment and heads need to roll. On the positive the owlife was bought to justice within hours.
Now it is a sad fact that young girls are murdered by predatory sick men.
By and large the left appear to have zero interest in women’s safety. When other poor women are murdered their silence is deafening unless they feel there is a race angle to exploit. A black women killed by a white man will pique their interest but a BAME man on a white woman, a BAME man on a BAME woman or a white man on a white woman all of those scenarios will meet with deafening silence.
In this case the left leapt at like a dog with a bone. Why? Because it gave them a chance to attack the police as a whole.
As for the vigil, who turns up to a vigil for a murdered girl with a Palestininian flag? It is like Del Boy turning up with a suitcase of moody Rolexes to sell because a crowd is there.
So back to taking the knee.
I have no problem with there being a gesture to condemn racism. I don’t think there is a problem in the game of football now our game is over represented by black players and when there was a problem the FA and all the other authorities shamefully turned a blind eye to it.
My problem is that gesture. Because that gesture supports an organisation that’s main purpose is to push Marxism.
So my take is I don’t think there is much problem with racism within English football although evidence shows football is still behind the curve on integrating Asian or gay people into football but no-one seems to care about that.
That said any gesture against racism is never a bad thing but to get full support come up with a gesture that isn’t so heavily linked with an organisation that is viewed as Marxist.
Your and others take seems to be that partucular gesture is the most important thing so you’d be willing to lose a lot of potential support to keep that gesture so I question why?
Tommy Robinson is without doubt a fascist but has limited his rhetoric to the child grooming gangs and extremist Islam.
He even has BAME supporters.
Now I am not naïve and have no doubts that Robinson is a dyed in the wool fascist and the child grooming and extremist Islam is his Trojan Horse and gateway to spout his poison and any black people or Sikhs that support him and don’t think they will be the next raget must be moronic.
So Erol you aren’t a stupid man.
I think you are very naive but you insist your eyes are open on this so to me that only seems to leave one option?