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£5000 fines from next Monday for anyone leaving the UK. Reports suggest it Looks likely to last until at least end of July at very least. Chances of a summer abroad looking very remote.

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The latest travel ban..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56493002
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A £5,000 fine for anyone in England trying to travel abroad without good reason is due to come into force next week as part of new coronavirus laws.

The penalty is included in legislation that will be voted on by MPs on Thursday.

Foreign holidays are currently not allowed under the "stay at home" rule which ends on Monday.

But then the ban on leaving the UK at this time will become a specific law backed up by the threat of the fine

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56493002
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Hedge-fund wrote:
Tue 23 Mar 2021 12:40 am
I agree. If one thing is certain - it's that nothing is certain.
Indeed nothing is certain.

Vote today by government in U.K. on wether to implement a £5000 fine should you travel abroad on holiday or without good reason. Current date for easing restrictions is 17 May however due to third wave of virus in Europe this may change. Possibly the travel ban could last until end June.

The U.K. rate of infection has fallen sharply and over half the adult population has been vaccinated. This is great progress. Travel however could have a negative impact and we must ensure we avoid another lockdown and surge of infections.
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It says without good reason would owing a houses and needing to sign paper work and maintenance of the house count
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TAC, just ask them the question, if YES then fine, if the computer says NO, then at least you will have tried!!

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no need to now
An exemption dubbed the “Stanley Johnson clause” allowing people to travel overseas in connection to second homes abroad is to be included in new coronavirus rules.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/s ... li=BBoPWjQ
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TAC wrote:
Tue 23 Mar 2021 1:54 pm
no need to now
An exemption dubbed the “Stanley Johnson clause” allowing people to travel overseas in connection to second homes abroad is to be included in new coronavirus rules.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/s ... li=BBoPWjQ

I think this will be very useful for swallows. There is also clarification being sought as to whether simply checking on a 2nd home abroad is sufficient.

I think the current draconian measure is intended to stop mass Easter holidays and come 12th April we will have a better idea of what the roadmap for travel looks like.

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As someone has already commented on Fb, watch for a wave of 'viewings' being arranged overseas, with no intention to purchase...

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Hedge-fund wrote:
Tue 23 Mar 2021 5:16 pm
TAC wrote:
Tue 23 Mar 2021 1:54 pm
no need to now
An exemption dubbed the “Stanley Johnson clause” allowing people to travel overseas in connection to second homes abroad is to be included in new coronavirus rules.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/s ... li=BBoPWjQ

I think this will be very useful for swallows. There is also clarification being sought as to whether simply checking on a 2nd home abroad is sufficient.

I think the current draconian measure is intended to stop mass Easter holidays and come 12th April we will have a better idea of what the roadmap for travel looks like.

12th April announcement has been brought forward to 5th April - Easter Monday.

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Education,work,deaths,are the main three reasons

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Another poke in the eye to the EU

The news that the Novavax vaccine is going to go through a process known as fill and finish in the UK is an interesting development.

Fill and finish is the process by which vaccines are packaged up in vials, ready to be sent out to vaccination clinics.

The original plan was for this to be done in Europe once the vaccine product was manufactured by plants in the north east.

But a deal has been struck with drug firm GSK to do that here.

Officially, the government is saying that it is all part of their investment in the British life science industry.

But given the threats from Europe about restricting exports of vaccines, it begs all sorts of other questions too.

The north east plants have already started manufacturing the 60m doses ordered by the government. If it gets approval by the regulator - expected in the coming weeks - supplies could be available in June.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-56570168
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Novavax has also stalled on signing contracts with the EU for delivery of their vaccine, UK has 60 million doses on order.

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From the link -
"GSK will finish and bottle them at its facility in Barnard Castle."
Will Dominic Cummings be overseeing the process? :lol:

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Great to hear the news about the Novavax vaccine.

Of course it has still to be approved but if this happens the U.K. will continue to lead the EU as far as vaccine research, production and distribution is concerned.

Sadly the EU has been out thought, out flanked and sadly for its citizens let down.

The U.K. gambled on what companies would be the quickest to get a vaccine approved and available. Narrowed down to a short list and placed orders early. The amount of work and effort that has gone into the UKs vaccination roll out is very impressive.

Long May it continue.
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Looks like Boris was right when he said who will want to deal with the EU when they want to ban vaccine exports


Pfizer has admitted it may ditch the German biotech firm that made its breakthrough coronavirus jab as it looks to drastically expand its vaccine business.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medica ... li=AAnZ9Ug
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The EU has done the UK a massive favour - would any company seriously want to set up a new business or plant in the EU when the storm troopers could march in any day and start calling the shots?

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The vaccine crisis in the eu will be their undoing.

Mafia tactics, law breaking blockades, causing tens of thousands of preventable deaths and driving innovative businesses out of Europe.

The UK will now go fully self sufficient on vaccine production & supply but this is just the start. Businesses recognise a can do and will do ethic and free from eu interfering bureaucracy the UK will thrive in world trade.

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Little wonder that we are expecting a third wave. I am appalled at the level of stupidity of people. Here the other day in the hospital I saw a woman enter one of the departments while she wasn't wearing a mask. How she got past the staff on the door who take your temperature as you walk in I don't know. She was British and stated to the staff that she had forgot her mask. They gave her one which she duly out on but then she moved from behind the well signposted barrier asking you to stay behind it away from the desk to stand in front of it right in front of the staff on the desk. Why they didn't ask (tell) her to stand back I don't know either.

If staff in a Hospital are unable to ensure that visitors keep to their rules what help is there out on the streets and restaurants?

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Christwright03, like you I'm horribly afraid that people are becoming very slack about a lot of the so called "precautions". Today I spent a considerable time in Lefkosia and the lack of hand washing, signing in, taking temperature was in some cases totally ignored or just not available. Accidently I walked from car to shop and suddenly realised I had forgotten my mask. I said "I'll be back in a second, I've left mask in car" "Don't bother, it doesn't matter". In another shop, all the staff had masks but they were just hanging around their neck. When I walked in there was a sudden rush to wear them. In another place people were just walking in and out, masks around their necks and trying on shoes!! Lastly I was sitting in a cafe having an ice cream, two policemen and a police woman walked in without masks, walked past the handwash machine ordered their ices , didn't pay for them and walked out. One law for the likes of you and me and one law for the others guess.

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Chriswright03 wrote:
Tue 30 Mar 2021 5:39 pm
Little wonder that we are expecting a third wave. I am appalled at the level of stupidity of people. Here the other day in the hospital I saw a woman enter one of the departments while she wasn't wearing a mask. How she got past the staff on the door who take your temperature as you walk in I don't know. She was British and stated to the staff that she had forgot her mask. They gave her one which she duly out on but then she moved from behind the well signposted barrier asking you to stay behind it away from the desk to stand in front of it right in front of the staff on the desk. Why they didn't ask (tell) her to stand back I don't know either.

If staff in a Hospital are unable to ensure that visitors keep to their rules what help is there out on the streets and restaurants?

I wouldn't worry yourself for one second.

Not wearing a mask has not killed one person.

Just live and enjoy your life.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 74086.html

https://twitter.com/i/status/1235105792795136002

The science has not changed since these statements - just the public advice to make some people feel safer.

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I think you are missing the point. If people are allowed to just do what they like and ignore the rules in places like a hospital then the chances of the third or even fourth wave are even greater. Whether or not she was wearing a mask or others were she was still allowed in like that then allowed to invade the social distance barrier without being told to move back.

In the bank the other day I saw that they had placed chairs in front of the counter as well as the red line and the notice that people should remain behind the line. I commented that that would stop people. No it doesn't was the reply.

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PoshinDevon wrote:
Mon 29 Mar 2021 11:31 pm
Great to hear the news about the Novavax vaccine.

Of course it has still to be approved but if this happens the U.K. will continue to lead the EU as far as vaccine research, production and distribution is concerned.

Sadly the EU has been out thought, out flanked and sadly for its citizens let down.

The U.K. gambled on what companies would be the quickest to get a vaccine approved and available. Narrowed down to a short list and placed orders early. The amount of work and effort that has gone into the UKs vaccination roll out is very impressive.

Long May it continue.
well, yes, there are evening long discussions about the EU roll out. and that others did better... the lot.
news and opinions from UK about the "incredible vaccine roll out" sometimes sound like a new religion was invented......
at the end.. you only can be happy that the EU was a little late, otherwise not much would be available for the UK, except the vaccines which are produced in the UK and are not exported.
more or less same practice as the US and now India.. my country fist.
you need Novavax, as AZ from India is most probably history.
the EU still do exports and they are planning to do in the future as well. its a world wide pandemic and not just in the UK.

just in Marburg, Germany, german mRNA producer Biontech (not Pfizer.. their duties in that partnership are others) will produce 250 million doses in the first half of 2021 and (hopefully) 1 billion doses till end of 2021. in total, the plan of Biontech is to produce up to 2 billion doses in 2021 and certainly 2billion in 2022.
the other german mRNA producer, Curevac, targets 300 million in 2021 and 600 million in 2022.
newest development is that they may want to produce SputnikV as well.
I believe that jabbed people from non EU countries will be permitted entrance to Europe soon, pls spent your money in greece , portugal, NC, wherever
the vaccine practice of the UK will not make many "good friends" (same as the US..) and will not make it any easier at negotiation tables for new deals......

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Well, the French have just announced a month long lockdown and if they don't pull their socks up here then they will have to do the same. OR at least they should do, but sadly money is ruling the roost, hence three day trips allowed (now won't that please the Casinos, who deal in three day trips over a weekend)

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kibsolar1999 wrote:
Wed 31 Mar 2021 7:28 pm
PoshinDevon wrote:
Mon 29 Mar 2021 11:31 pm
Great to hear the news about the Novavax vaccine.

Of course it has still to be approved but if this happens the U.K. will continue to lead the EU as far as vaccine research, production and distribution is concerned.

Sadly the EU has been out thought, out flanked and sadly for its citizens let down.

The U.K. gambled on what companies would be the quickest to get a vaccine approved and available. Narrowed down to a short list and placed orders early. The amount of work and effort that has gone into the UKs vaccination roll out is very impressive.

Long May it continue.
well, yes, there are evening long discussions about the EU roll out. and that others did better... the lot.
news and opinions from UK about the "incredible vaccine roll out" sometimes sound like a new religion was invented......
at the end.. you only can be happy that the EU was a little late, otherwise not much would be available for the UK, except the vaccines which are produced in the UK and are not exported.
more or less same practice as the US and now India.. my country fist.
you need Novavax, as AZ from India is most probably history.
the EU still do exports and they are planning to do in the future as well. its a world wide pandemic and not just in the UK.

just in Marburg, Germany, german mRNA producer Biontech (not Pfizer.. their duties in that partnership are others) will produce 250 million doses in the first half of 2021 and (hopefully) 1 billion doses till end of 2021. in total, the plan of Biontech is to produce up to 2 billion doses in 2021 and certainly 2billion in 2022.
the other german mRNA producer, Curevac, targets 300 million in 2021 and 600 million in 2022.
newest development is that they may want to produce SputnikV as well.
I believe that jabbed people from non EU countries will be permitted entrance to Europe soon, pls spent your money in greece , portugal, NC, wherever
the vaccine practice of the UK will not make many "good friends" (same as the US..) and will not make it any easier at negotiation tables for new deals......
The eu exports nothing - it's a made up body comprised of failed politicians.

European companies based in european countries have made legally binding contracts to supply goods that have been paid for.

The eu is illegally trying to stop the supply of these goods.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... e-rollout/

Makes.for interesting reading, the EU has done themselves no favours with their stance.

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Maisiemoo, I agree with your views and Macron is treading a very thin sheet of ice. BTW, I think Telegraph plus their Instant News facility which I signed up for is exceptionally good.

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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21938027 ... t-the-bloc

EUROPE'S jabs farce has hit a new low after paranoid Italian officials impounded life-saving meningitis shots over Covid vaccine smuggling fears. Rome's customs authority tested the contents of the vials citing suspicions they may actually be Coronavirus doses being bootlegged out of the EU

COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca – Update on ongoing ...
The committee confirmed that the vaccine is not associated with an increase in the overall risk of blood clots and that the benefits of the vaccine in combating the still widespread threat of COVID-19

AstraZeneca says US trial data shows vaccine is 79 per cent effective, finds no blood clot concerns. Vaccine maker says late-stage US study shows strong protection

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and state leaders agreed to allow family doctors to administer coronavirus vaccines after Easter, with additional doses of vaccine being given to hotspots in German...

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