AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
I really dont understand this concept of Gotcha...I had assumed this was a discussion? Every point I have raised is and has been in response to you trying to discredit or find excuses for certain actions, nothing more nothing less.
It's exactly the other way around if you care to examine the timeline of this thread but carry on.
As for the gotcha I think the lady doth protest too much.
Btw any joy on the link to that online petition with the slavery connotations? Or did you make up that no-one protested or the source of it was leftist. Which one was it because I've asked 3 or 4 times now. To remind you it was a petition you bought up not me
AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
anti semitism was raised and I merely pointed out the conservative party has greater issues of racism to deal with
So wasn't raised by me? Quick change of feet there?
The other is your opinion and is bought up as a whatabout to The Labour Party's troubles
AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
As for political views, I really find that that totally irrelevant to this discussion.
I had no wish to talk about anything other than football in this particular thread. But others wished to bring it up so I responded. You seem to want to be able to spout of whatever you want without challenge.
When we go onto taking the knee that inevitably leads to BLM because the taking of the knee in the UK was linked with the BLM. Football clubs have tried to sideline the BLM part I suggest they look for another gesture to complete that. For some it is more important to defend an organisation so I speculate if that is because of their political leanings and BLMs.
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AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
Im sure your buddies in the BNP will inform you of this.
I'm sure you will be able to find a post of mine where I have said the BNP or similar organisations are anything other than disgusting?
I wont hold my breath waiting for Erol to jump in and say anything here, as he will say its your words not his.
Its clever but a bit tired really. Anyone who is to the left of far left must be a fascist.
I am also very sure you wouldn't accuse me of supporting the BNP to my face.
AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
It's been claimed there is a connection between the anti-racism gesture and left-wing political theory but the argument is entirely without foundation
There is an argument doing the rounds in England that taking the knee before matches is a Marxist gesture.
No everyone should be anti-racist and the left generally are in favour of most forms of racism. To say the far left haven't leapt on this to undermine society in general is untrue. They leap on anything to undermine society in general as they wish to change it fundamentally.
OK question to you, everyone who boos the taking of the knee is racist?
AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
This supposed link comes from the far right. It is a boo word, trying to scare people. Perhaps its time you come to terms to being a closet BNP supporter?
Accuse others which you are guilty of yourself
Again keyboard warrior, find one post at which I defend the BNP in any way, shape or form
AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
While one of BLM's founders admitted to having Marxist beliefs in 2015, the group has little to do with left-wing political theory.
It was 2 out of the 3 founders actually, but I don't think anyone expects accuracy from you
AFC wrote: ↑Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:01 am
BLM is far larger than marxist organisations combined and most would not call themselves marxists.
Anti racism is far larger than marxist organisations combined, BLM is slowly losing their popularity due to its links with Marxism, as illustrated by the booing.
So as an anti racist personally I'd remove anything that undermined anti racism.
But some seem determined that BLM must remain part of anti-racism. I question why.
Marxists whenever they become openly marxist gain next to zero votes.
This is why they have to hijack organisations which do have popularity.
This is why we saw the widescale entryism into the Labour party as evidenced after Corbyn's leadership win.
They are still rooted in there looking to dislodge Starmer.
This is the nearest they have ever got to power in the UK, they aren't going to give it up without a fight.
People know the Labour Party is still riddled with Marxists which is why they can't make any gains on a pretty poor government.
If Starmer started visibly booting them out then his popularity would increase overnight.
Then we would have an effective opposition