Whilst I have no issues paying for good food and service , I do object to being ripped off, which seems to be on the increase, Name and Shame by location please , BUT not by name.
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Why should any establishment assume that I carry a mobile phone and have the Q code app on it.Trouble is, we were told that we have to use our mobiles after downloading that bar code thingy
Why did you not complain ?Perhaps they thought I was a tourist, not that it should have mattered.
I need the speaker, I play golf, my head sweats, that affects the speaker it corrodes, I get my batteries from the UK much cheaper.
Well said, don't forget the extreme Belediye tax for the privilege of being open. I know of one restaurant owner who has recently moved to a larger better venue for the same monthly rent they wanted for their smaller original venue.EnjoyingTheSun wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2024 8:42 pmProblem out here is we have a 101 restaurants with pretty much 1 menu. They aren’t cooking anything that even I, a very average cook, couldn’t reproduce. In fact I could produce something a bit more interesting.
A big factor is the rents that are being charged to these restaurants. Next time you are in one, figure out roughly how much profit they will make on your meal & then how many meals they need to sell per day just to cover that day’s rent. And that’s before you factor in wages, electricity etc etc. I’m amazed that any are surviving.
I fully understand all what you are stating but the restaurants need to get bums on seats, so they need to come up with ideas. If you are having a meal, drop the price of drink, do smaller portions or go large. Encourage people to come out, there are lots of people on the island , maybe offer have your car washed while you eat.EnjoyingTheSun wrote: ↑Mon 27 May 2024 8:42 pmProblem out here is we have a 101 restaurants with pretty much 1 menu. They aren’t cooking anything that even I, a very average cook, couldn’t reproduce. In fact I could produce something a bit more interesting.
A big factor is the rents that are being charged to these restaurants. Next time you are in one, figure out roughly how much profit they will make on your meal & then how many meals they need to sell per day just to cover that day’s rent. And that’s before you factor in wages, electricity etc etc. I’m amazed that any are surviving.
I struggle to work out the mentality of these landlords. They must surely realise that the rent has to be a viable amount for the shop or restaurant to remain open. Yes £1000 is a much nicer amount than £600 but £600 is even better than nothingMollie the cat wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 10:47 amI have just bought pool stuff from a local shop, when I went in the place was half empty, they are closing the shop, the rent has increased from £600 to £1000 overnight, outrageous.
Yes they are going to have to get a lot more creative with their offer but I have noticed in my time out here that the Turks/Cypriots aren’t the most imaginative bunch. They seem to have more of a herd instinct. Like I have said before on here Lebanese food is something that they could easily go into as it is mainly grill food & ingredients won’t be a problem but they don’t. But if one or 2 do & it becomes a success than probably every restaurant will herd to Lebanese thus removing the USPsnd1966 wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 11:37 am
I fully understand all what you are stating but the restaurants need to get bums on seats, so they need to come up with ideas. If you are having a meal, drop the price of drink, do smaller portions or go large. Encourage people to come out, there are lots of people on the island , maybe offer have your car washed while you eat.
They don’t care and never have, this mentality was the same 25 years ago. They only see the “there and now and don’t worry if you leave because they know the next person that comes along is willing to pay. They cannot comprehend your example of the £600, say for 2 years and it keeps his restaurant open with something coming in and also for you to make an income to get you over the worst. It’s not there in their mindset, because they don’t even consider it.EnjoyingTheSun wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 7:25 pmI struggle to work out the mentality of these landlords. They must surely realise that the rent has to be a viable amount for the shop or restaurant to remain open. Yes £1000 is a much nicer amount than nothing but £600 is even better than nothingMollie the cat wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 10:47 amI have just bought pool stuff from a local shop, when I went in the place was half empty, they are closing the shop, the rent has increased from £600 to £1000 overnight, outrageous.
But will there be a next person to pay it? If the sums don’t stack up then it won’t be viable for anyone & the property will just remain empty & the landlord won’t be getting even his £600.Dalartokat wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 8:45 pmThey don’t care and never have, this mentality was the same 25 years ago. They only see the “there and now and don’t worry if you leave because they know the next person that comes along is willing to pay.EnjoyingTheSun wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 7:25 pmI struggle to work out the mentality of these landlords. They must surely realise that the rent has to be a viable amount for the shop or restaurant to remain open. Yes £1000 is a much nicer amount than nothing but £600 is even better than nothingMollie the cat wrote: ↑Tue 28 May 2024 10:47 amI have just bought pool stuff from a local shop, when I went in the place was half empty, they are closing the shop, the rent has increased from £600 to £1000 overnight, outrageous.
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Really is this CHEAP !!!Canary Isles, can't believe how cheap it is to live there
Re the herd mentality, I’ve said a few times on here that I think a Lebanese restaurant would do very well. Do I think a couple of Lebanese restaurants in an area would do well? 100%. Do I think 12 Lebanese restaurants in an area will do well? Well obviously not.laptawrinkly wrote: ↑Thu 30 May 2024 4:57 pm
The herd mentality: years ago we would laugh when someone opened a 'shoe shop' and how quickly you then had several all within spitting distance of each other! Over the years the herd has become 'more sophisticated', now with all the 'universities', we have a huge surplus in TC doctors, dentists and vets. Where do they think all these TC youngsters will get jobs once qualified! They certainly cannot get jobs in the EU or UK with such degrees, as they need to undertake extra training (vets another 2 years supervised trng) to get registered, for example in Switzerland.
If a restaurant is doing well I don't think it is unfair for the landlord to share in its good fortune, especially if location is a factor but…..?laptawrinkly wrote: ↑Thu 30 May 2024 4:57 pm
As soon as the landlord sees a restaurant 'making money', guaranteed they will put the rent up. They simply don't care about the overheads of running the business.