I wouldn’t necessarily label TRNC as typically European. What is typically European? Yes I have moved to the TRNC which kind of kicks against your stereotype of leavers as xenophobic, foreigner hating little Englanders doesn’t it?waz-24-7 wrote:ETS
I think that you are being rather hypocritical in you view.
Lets face it.
You have chosen to leave the UK and reside in the TRNC which is essentially European.
I am not overly bothered over your stance over currency and sovereignty. The World moves very fast indeed and your views, in my opinion, simply want to look backwards and hold onto the past.
Migration of people, the movement and dynamic nature of trade and business has left you behind. Perhaps living in Cyprus explains this given its somewhat unique position within the modern trading World.
As for looking backwards I want countries to trade freely across the world without hiding behind tariffs. To engage with tiger economies across the globe. You want us to trade with our neighbours and inefficient industries hide behind tariffs.
As for being left behind I moved out here less than 3 years ago not in the fifties. The world moves quickly but not the EU it seems. Or have they finalised some new trade deals since I left the UK?
Obviously you don’t want to go into any more details re the Euro and sovereignty because you are having your backside handed to you every time.
You’ll have to explain the “a region that is clearly distasteful” comment.waz-24-7 wrote:ETS
Yes I am indeed concern. Many people and businesses clearly are. People that work in , live in and trade from and within the UK.
There is no shame it protecting ones livelihood. I'm afraid that preaching from one that has departed UK shores to reside in a region that is clearly distasteful in many respects is rather hypocritical and therefore I am very reluctant to consider your point of view as very credible or worth attention.
As for the rest of the comment let me give you an example.
Let’s say you were a door to door salesman but only wanted to sell within your road? Every year your turnover goes down but that’s ok because the EU sends you a subsidy. It would go down a lot more but the EU stops anyone else selling in your road even though it means the customers pay over the odds. Whilst it isn’t a great business model you can survive because the EU subsidises your business through grants.
So I am selfish, xenophobic and have no business sense for essentially saying that our tax money could be better spent elsewhere and if your business can only survive by selling within your street or by being subsidised maybe you are in the wrong business? Also can you not see there is no long term future in it because every year the people in your street are spending less with you and at some point we can’t keep subsidising you?
How do you know I will be little effected? Actually on balance I will probably be worse off in the short term leaving the EU.waz-24-7 wrote: If the UK crashes out. You will likely be very little effected. Your UK family possibly if they remain within the UK. That is something you will deal with and you should surely explain to them why you left UK shores yet dealt a card that could cause them some level of hardship.
Don’t worry I have already explained to my family that I voted for Brexit because I sincerely thought it would destroy the UK economically!
Where’s the prosperity that the EU has bought us that is because of the EU. Yes our standard of living has gone up over the last 40 years but at a slower rate than countries outside the EU. Yes most of our trade is now with the EU because we are essentially made to trade with the EU, forget shopping around for those cheap oranges. Pre joining our trade with the EU was about 21% in no time it was 42%. It doubled because we were forced to abandon Commonwealth countries we had previously traded with.waz-24-7 wrote:
Who knows. I may be totally wrong and in 60 odd days we will all be bathing in milk and have wealth and prosperity like never before. Certainly the prosperity that BREXIT has promised has no factual basis.